The Public Forum of The M+G+R Foundation


PURPOSE

The purpose of this Public Forum is to publicly respond to and/or comment upon correspondence that we may receive from time to time and which is of Universal interest in these very unsettling times.

We reserve the right to choose what questions to address and how to transcribe the question and/or statement from the correspondence received. The identity of the correspondent will be kept confidential except in the case of abusive correspondence which will then be referred to the appropriate responsible entities.

Letters/Questions - Addressed on February 2007


From TK @ USA [Published on February 28th]

Q. Regarding the news report (*) which we quote below:

....beekeepers like Sundberg have a mystery in their hives this year. Bees are disappearing at an alarming rate.

"Colonies are going down. The bees aren't dead in the box or aren't out front," says Jerry Bromenshenk, a bee researcher at the University of Montana. "They've just disappeared. Just vanished."

Part of the mystery is that colonies can go from active and healthy to dead and gone within days. For beekeepers, that's a loss that stings.

They "just disappeared," says beekeeper Louise Rossberg. "There's nothing there. There's no bees on the ground anywhere. There's just a completely empty hive."

In just a few weeks, Rossberg has seen hundreds of her hives go empty. "I don't know what to do," she says. "And I'm not alone."

Does the disappearance of bees mean anything?

Thanks

TK

A.The environmental/zoological reason escapes us - but that is not important at all - what is important is that such disappearance is another communication channel that God is using to let us know "where we are at". Read on...

Bee / Bee Hive

The bee is symbolic of tireless activity. It represents a good work ethic and being diligent at it’s task. Because the worker bees are “virgins” it is symbolic of virginity/chastity. Because the bee appears to die in the winter and re-appear in the summer, it can symbolize rebirth. The bee’s hard work is connected to the beehive, which symbolizes order. The bee represents the Christian and the beehive then symbolizes the church. Legend also suggests that bees never sleep, thus it is a symbol of vigilance. (**)

If we tried we just could not make up what we report and announce... yet, How many people do believe us when we keep announcing that the "party", as we know it, "is just about over" and continue to call for prayer and penance as we have done before....

12 Now therefore saith the Lord: Be converted to me with all your heart, in fasting, and in weeping, and in mourning. 13 And rend your hearts, and not your garments, and turn to the Lord your God: for he is gracious and merciful, patient and rich in mercy, and ready to repent of the evil. 14 Who knoweth but he will return, and forgive, and leave a blessing behind him, sacrifice and libation to the Lord your God? 15 Blow the trumpet in Sion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly, 16 Gather together the people, sanctify the church, assemble the ancients, gather together the little ones, and them that suck at the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth from his bed, and the bride out of her bride chamber. 17 Between the porch and the altar the priests the Lord's ministers shall weep, and shall say: Spare, O Lord, spare thy people: and give not thy inheritance to reproach, that the heathen should rule over them. Why should they say among the nations: Where is their God? [Joel 2]

Brethren, when people ask: What time is it? We must respond: It's about that time!

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(*) Full article on missing bees: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/13/eveningnews/main2471672.shtml
(**) Quote source: http://www.christiansymbols.net/animals_page3.htm


From WO @ USA [Published on February 27th]

Q. In reference to your recent mailing (*) about the alleged Tomb of Jesus.... Some time ago it was pointed out to me that director James Cameron is alleged to be a very high ranking Freemason and an occultist. Unfortunately whatever links, "evidence" I had were mislaid long ago. But if said allegation is even half true, it explains a lot.

To quote you: "How can the Faithful continue to put up with the antics of the Roman Catholic Church Administration? Pray for their conversion, indeed, but also stop every single financial assistance to it. You will see how quickly they "convert" - they are quite responsive to the prompting of their god - mammon."

Agreed - a thousand fold!!! But what are the faithful to do? While I usually do not pull my inspiration from the "Opus Dei Channel" (EWTN), this morning while watching their daily mass as I listened to the OD cleric spew questionable advice to Catholic on how observe Lent, an idea came to me. NO, not from anything this "priest" said, but from the concept of "Lenten Almsgiving" which he touched upon. Of course, he/they want you to give your money to them. But what came to me was something far more of Christ & what He taught us.

Here is my idea: you know that $$$ which one would normally put in the collection, or send to some alleged "Catholic charity"? How about doing some REAL charity with it. Surely you know a friend or neighbor who is having a hard time. An elderly person trying to live on nothing. A single person out of work and luck. A family which can barely afford to pay their utilities, car/house/credit card payments, and in danger of losing everything?

Take that money which you would otherwise have put in the collection........ place it in a plain envelope.... and quietly slip it under their door in the middle of the night. Nobody will know that you did it - as it should be! The recipient of this charity will not know who gave it, and think (correctly) that it came from God - which, in truth it did. Christ taught us to give to those who need - but in secret. Not to seek a tax deduction, photo-op, praise, thanks, or even dare to ever expect repayment. The amount is not important; the intention is. For God sees all which we do in secret, as Christ told us.

That is "Lenten Almsgiving"...... going straight to those who need alms the most: that "neighbor" of whom Our Lord spoke.

WO

A. That is an excellent suggestion and it is very rewarding. There are also other organizations which - if known to be truly of God - one can assist financially with the certainty that every penny will be well used.

For example - Renewed Hope, spearheaded by Ralph and and Roberta Pippitt is one example. miguel de Portugal knew them very well long before he was anointed as such. When miguel left the world they were still part of it and he will never forget the last visit he had with them. The next news he had of Ralph and Roberta was their Zimbabwe project. If miguel now were in the position he was after his conversion and his final response to God, ever single cent donated would go to them.

But as WO suggests - look around for "your Zimbabwe" may be just around your street corner.


(*) Referred to mailing follows:


Quote from News Report (1)

The burial site of Jesus has been found and suggests he had a wife and son, according to highly sensitive claims in a documentary by "Titanic" director James Cameron and Israel-born Simcha Jacobovici.

The claims inject controversy into the issue of resurrection central to Christianity and, if accurate, could reignite questions about Jesus' earthy family life popularized in the book "The Da Vinci Code."

Cameron and Jacobovici, an award-winning documentary director, said their research suggested Jesus married Mary Magdalene and had a son, Judah.

and at the very bottom of the article we read:

Israeli archaeologist and professor Amos Kloner, who documented the tomb as the Jewish burial cave of a well-off family more than 10 years ago, is adamant there is no evidence to support claims that it was the burial site of Jesus.

"I'm a scholar. I do scholarly work which has nothing to do with documentary film-making. There's no way to take a religious story and to turn it into something scientific," he told AFP in a telephone interview.

"I still insist that it is a regular burial chamber from the 1st century BC," Kloner said, adding that the names were a coincidence.

"Who says that 'Maria' is Magdalena and 'Judah' is the son of Jesus? It cannot be proved. These are very popular and common names from the 1st century BC," said the academic at Israel's Bar Ilan University.

Comment

In the Portuguese daily 24 horas there is a 3/4 page article on this issue, slanted, of course to favor that the tomb was really that of Jesus and family. That would be expected in a lay daily in the much touted Catholic nation. What is not expected are the two alleged quotes from a high profile member of the clergy:

(1) Rev. Armindo Vaz of the Discalced Carmelite order and a "profound" student of the Bible states: "That's nothing new." and "Two years ago there was an identical situation and, as it is expected, the Church position was prudent."

(2) He believes that the story may be "...an excellent TV documentary" and generate "some surprise and sensationalism in certain sectors". Nonetheless, for "the tradition of the Great Church, the discovery of Jesus' tomb does not represent nothing new."

Assuming that he was quoted correctly - and we have no reason to doubt it from what we know "from the field" and NOT from post cards and tourist brochures, our first question is:

Wash is order the Discalced Carmelites or the DISGRACED Carmelites?

With our second question being:

How can the Faithful continue to put up with the antics of the Roman Catholic Church Administration? Pray for their conversion, indeed, but also stop every single financial assistance to it. You will see how quickly they "convert" - they are quite responsive to the promptings of their god - mammon.

Remember - we are not talking about the Faith, our position is clear about the Pristine Catholic Faith - we are talking about the clerical parasites about whom Jesus spoke thus....

But woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you shut the kingdom of heaven against men, for you yourselves do not enter in; and those that are going in, you suffer not to enter. [Matthew 23: 13]

Which was because...

If God were your Father, you would indeed love me. For from God I proceeded, and came; for I came not of myself, but he sent me: 43 Why do you not know my speech? Because you cannot hear my word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof. 45 But if I say the truth, you believe me not. [John 8: 42-45]

And that is why we label most of them Spiritual Bastards - not the sons of the One they claim to be their Father.

miguel de Portugal
+ by the Grace of God

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(1) Full News Report


From YDM @ US [Published on February 25th]

Q. I saw the movie(Breach)(*), and it was great. He got his just desserts, and it only shows that nothing, even Opus Dei, is too much for God to step in.

Let us continue to "pray for the conversion of poor sinners" as Our Lady has requested at Fatima.

In His Mercy, Hannsen has much time to work out his salvation.

Praise be to Jesus.


YDM


A. In just a few simple, but poignant lines, YDM has shown why the Death Penalty is against the Will of God - under all circumstances; and so is the termination of another human being's life. Man will never know how grievous a transgression is to take another human's life until the veil is crossed, and then, it will be too late for many to make the appropriate reparation. We must remember that when the veil is crossed, the rules are different.

(*) YDM is referring to a mailing that went to our Select List and read as follows:

The movie Breach will be earthshaking.... Opus Dei will be hard pressed from recuperating from this one.

The DaVinci Code could be dismissed as a Fantasy Thriller, "Breach" will not be that easy to dismiss with Hansen behind bars as charged and his boss and co-Opus Dei member, former FBI Director, Louis Freeh on the loose.

You may want to review http://www.mgr.org/DiaryOfASpy.html which probably is the foundation of the movie script.

Didn't He say:

17 For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad. [Luke 8]

and

2 For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed: nor hidden, that shall not be known. 3 For whatsoever things you have spoken in darkness, shall be published in the light: and that which you have spoken in the ear in the chambers, shall be preached on the housetops. [Luke 12]

In the end they - Opus Dei - will believe; however, it will be too late for many for, didn't He also say:

48 But he that knew not, and did things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. And unto whomsoever much is given, of him much shall be required: and to whom they have committed much, of him they will demand the more. [Luke 12]

We do not make the rules... we just remind the world of them.

m de P


From CH @ New Zealand [Published on February 23rd]

Q. A few years ago, I started looking with some interest at ‘Bible Codes’. I no longer pursue this interest.

Bible Codes are supposedly hidden messages throughout the Bible in a form that can be used to cross reference various texts to unlock messages and information.

 

It convinced me that this was another band wagon that people could climb aboard, while other made money supplying them with software to meet their ‘needs’.

 

However, an undeniable fact is that the gentleman that first ‘cracked’ or became aware of this phenomenon accurately read the name of and exact date of the death (assassination) of a prominent Middle Eastern political figure uncovered in ‘Bible Codes’, in advance of the event. This was well documented. This is what drew my interest in it.

 

Since then, all and sundry have attempted to crack codes and read something into the most obscure possibilities that this presents. Some of the ‘codes’ that are cracked are downright ridiculous and probably inaccurate. It seems that anything can be found in these ‘codes’ using this method.

 

It DOES seem however, that there are some significant coincidences with information extrapolated by this method and actual world events. Names are also able to be found.

 

My thinking on all this has evolved to a point that I believe that it is quite possible that there are real hidden messages in the Bible in addition to the main text as we read it. My belief is driven by my limited knowledge on the creation of the Bible.

 

My understanding is that the Old Testament and New Testament are of Divine origin and that God instructed that they be written EXACTLY as he instructed without one variation. (please remember that my knowledge of the Bible is VERY limited, and I may be incorrect – please correct me where appropriate).

 

This being the case, it confirms that the complexity of the Bible, the complexity of the structure of the Bible and the consistency of texts could NEVER have been created by man – that the true Divine origin of the Biblical texts is unquestionable. (of course most people with Christian beliefs would think this anyway, but my background is different ....) For me, it also raises the possibility that the name of every human being that has ever lived and ever will live is recorded in some way, somewhere in the Bible, and possibly their spiritual destiny or fate.

 

I also believe that the Bible Codes could of course, be used by people pushing their own agendas, good or bad.

 

I am interested on your thoughts on this


CH


A. miguel de Portugal attests to the fact that there is far more in the Holy Scriptures than appears on the straight reading of every line. Shortly after - "shortly" being defined as just a few hours - from miguel's "Yes" to God's request of (paraphrasing) "...leave all behind and follow Me and serve Me.", the same Holy Scriptures he had become quite familiar with in the prior six years, opened up in a most amazing manner.


The best way it can be explained is: One is looking at the surface of a crystalline coral reef rich body of salt water. One sees the surface and maybe some tropical fish swimming just a few inches to a foot below the surface, and, all of a sudden, one is able to focus on and see all the horizontal planes of the body of water that lie below the surface, all the way to the bottom. That is what miguel felt when the Holy Scriptures were opened to him by God.


There is much, much hidden information in the Holy Scriptures and we can quote the Bible supporting such statement:


1 But at that time shall Michael rise up, the great prince, who standeth for the children of thy people: and a time shall come such as never was from the time that nations began even until that time. And at that time shall thy people be saved, every one that shall be found written in the book. 2 And many of those that sleep in the dust of the earth, shall awake: some unto life everlasting, and others unto reproach, to see it always. 3 But they that are learned shall shine as the brightness of the firmament: and they that instruct many to justice, as stars for all eternity. 4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time appointed: many shall pass over, and knowledge shall be manifold. 5 And I Daniel looked, and behold as it were two others stood: one on this side upon the bank of the river, and another on that side, on the other bank of the river. [Daniel 12]

This Grace is not only an exclusive gift for miguel; one of our cooperators had verse 5 (above) illuminated for him.... and then, for all since we published his communication in the Public Forum on August 17, 2006.

We have extensively addressed the reality and coherence of the Biblical texts in our documents Biblical Literalism Part I and Part II. We encourage the serious Faithful to review again both documents since they will answer many of CH's questions and confirm some of his statements.

You state that: "An undeniable fact is that the gentleman that first ‘cracked’ or became aware of this phenomenon accurately read the name of and exact date of the death (assassination) of a prominent Middle Eastern political figure uncovered in ‘Bible Codes’, in advance of the event. This was well documented. This is what drew my interest in it."

We are not surprised since we know well how "inside information" is being used to gain Prophet status or a controlling-of-the-masses status.

Nostradamus has been credited for many accurate predictions and many of those "coincidences" may have been achieved through forced translations or adjustment of historical events to suit the prediction; yet, others have not. One "other that was not" is:

quatrain VI-37

"The ancient work shall be accomplished from the roof, evil lightning shall fall on a great man. Being dead, they will accuse an innocent man of the deed. The guilty one hidden in the misty copse."

Nostradamus quatrain 6-37 (also listed as quatrain VI-37 or VI.37 or 6,37 ) translated below according to the History Channel show (emphasis added):

"The ancient work shall be accomplished from the roof, evil lightning shall fall on a great man. Being dead, they will accuse an innocent man of the deed. The guilty one hidden in the misty copse." [According to linguists "misty copse" = "grassy knoll"]

This quatrain refers to the assassination of Kennedy.

Why do we know that this quatrain is accurate without having been manipulated? Because the assassination of Kennedy, just like the 9-11 Tragedy, were absolute requirements in the fulfillment of "The ancient work shall be accomplished " which is nothing more than the establishment of a New International World Order.

Why should individuals refrain from trying to peek into the future by decoding the Bible, Nostradamus or DaVinci, for that matter?

We have addressed that issue extensively in our document: DIVINATION AND MIRACULOUS HEALINGS ...AND, WHAT ABOUT GOD? - A Biblical Synopsis

Therefore, your: "I no longer pursue this interest" is nothing more than acting upon Divine Inspiration. May God be Praised for not abandoning His children; His children who are willing to listen and obey Him.



From MK @ USA [Published on February 17th]

Q. You have asked what we would like to see posted. I have read your writings and find them completely according to the same timing of understandings that have been placed in my heart by Our Lord. One very big cross that I carry, though, is that since my return to the Church, Our Lord has enlightened me to see the changes that take place every day in the Mass.  As the smoke infiltrates His Church (and it's not slowly) , the heaviness in my heart is sometimes unbearable. Thanks be to God, He gives me His strength and I try to make reparation and offer love back to Him. I cannot talk to anybody about this, but I know you understand what I am saying. I know the Mystical Body of Christ is in its Gethsemane, and it is so painful. Here's the purpose of why I am writing you:

1. Miguel,   sometimes I cannot look at the situation without being judgmental or is this fanaticism? There are certain things I just cannot accept or follow. I am told I must be obedient (the changes after Vatican II).
 
2. I know there are others out there that are seeing the same things that I do. And, I know the time is coming where even greater changes are going to take place. Can you prepare the faithful on what to do.  Could this be an ongoing section in your domain, specifically pointing out the changes from modernism, etc. and discussing how the remnant faithful can ban together (in each of their Church's) to show the others that we will not succumb There are so many areas.
Example: I sit in the front row at daily Mass. As I go to receive Jesus, I kneel. There is no effort on my part, if I wasn't held up I would fall on my face in adoration of Our Lord. Not a "pious" act on my part, but a total love for my Beloved. During the homily, the priest looked at me and stated to the congregation any acts of piety like kneeling are not tolerated. It separates us from others and it not unifying. We are only allowed to bow as we come up so that we are all alike and making others uncomfortable. He is very strong on this and will is very upset that we set ourselves to be better than the rest.

Of note: When the priest began the consecration, two of the vessels with the wine, remained on the side of the altar. His hands only extended over his chalice. I couldn't believe it.

Nothing comes before my reverence to my Lord. I pray that He gives me the strength to fight to the very end.

MK

A. We wish we could say something other than the situation will get worse. Your feelings are shared by millions of true Catholics. The only solution we can offer is to look around for a Church which offers a reasonably acceptable Mass. For example, in Houston, Texas, there was the Dominican's Holy Rosary Parish, where Sunday Mass at 9 AM was Novus Ordo but in Latin and the singing was provided by a group of men intoning Gregorian Chants. In that Parish the kneeling rail was kept and communion was received kneeling down at all Masses.

Another church was the Annunciation in downtown Houston. On Sunday afternoons they offered the Tridentine Mass - after the ill attended (a real embarrassment!) two hour period of adoration of the Blessed Sacrament. In that same huge Metroplex there was only one Perpetual Adoration chapel and miguel drove many, many miles a week to frequent it. No complaints - at least we found one! The Faithful must just look around.

What we are illustrating to do is - first of all, search high and low because God may just have the Church you are looking for around the corner; then, you must "make do" with what is available until it becomes simply impossible to attend a Mass because it is no longer offered in an appropriate manner.

Do not think that such is a US problem exclusively. You should see what is taking place in "Holy" Portugal, not to mention "Saintly" Spain. Post cards and Tour Brochures do not tell the real story.... and neither does The Vatican, but that, by now, should be known without saying.

One is not being judgmental when one evaluates the abuses and offenses directed at our Lord. Hopefully we should know the difference between what is correct and incorrect.

This "judgmental" issue has been spun for centuries to protect the evil doers. We are not to judge a human being as evil or holy, for only God knows the reality of that soul as well as its final destination - Heaven or hell; however, God gave us a brain, Evangelization (for those who were Blessed to receive and assimilate some reasonable portion of it) and the Light of the Holy Spirit so that we can evaluate - using His Word as the "measuring stick" - actions/behaviors. Thus we MUST judge actions/behaviors and act accordingly.... with praying for the offender as the first priority.

What to do in a Mass where the Faithful is forbidden to take communion while kneeling? The communicant should genuflect just before taking the communion standing up and offer to God, as an act of reparation, having to have done so. To "make a scene" because one is not allowed to kneel is completely out of place and a sign of wishing to bring upon oneself everyone else's attention with the undercurrent message of "I am holier than you!"

We recommend a review of several related documents that we have online in the Name of God:

Fanaticism IS NOT part of the Christian Heritage
The Sin of Denial may be spiritually deadly
How many are really consuming the real Body of Christ? Precious few.
Let us not forget the contract we enter with God when we pray the Our Father - for He will not.


From RC @ USA [Published on February 14th]

Q. There is a saying that whenever God closes a door, he opens a window.

In the end, whatever is the end result, it is a good thing.

Not only that, a lot of what happens must happen in order for everything to turn out right.

RC

A. The saying quoted, common as it is, is another insult to God. The truth is that whenever God closes a door, He opens a wider one for our benefit. It is man who, in defiance to the Will of God, "kicks a window open" and ascribes such opening to God for cosmetic purposes.

Without a doubt, "...a lot of what happens must happen in order for everything to turn out right."... that is exactly what Pain is the megaphone that God uses to assist the deaf in hearing Him is all about.

Animals learn in a short time - like training a dog not to soil the carpet. It takes man a lifetime plus Purgatorial time to "get his act together". That is what Jesus came to help us with; unfortunately organized religion decided to "improve on Jesus". The fools!

The choice is always ours and the level of pain we must go through in Time is always in our hands but most are so blind that we cannot even see that!


From KMD @ USA [Published on February 8th]

Q. I have often thought about this quote from Jesus...

21 Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity. 24 Every one therefore that heareth these my words, and doth them, shall be likened to a wise man that built his house upon a rock, 25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and they beat upon that house, and it fell not, for it was founded on a rock. [Matthew 7]


...and I have wondered how I can live so Jesus doesn't say to me at the Last Judgment, "Depart from me."

Do you have any suggestions to your readers? Thank you for your time.


A.
Jesus will never deny the members of His Family who He clearly defined for us:

50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father, that is in heaven, he is my brother, and sister, and mother. [Matthew 12]

Now, being that life in Time is a Journey back to the Father, we must clarify the fact that no one can fully do the will of the Father. However, on the Day of Judgment we will be judged on how hard we sincerely tried to do the Will of the Father by overcoming our miseries and failings. God reads our hearts and He will know if we are really trying to do so out of love for Him or just for appearances sake.

Those who have done it for appearances sake are the ones that He will not recognized even if they sat in the front pew of the church for Mass seven days a week, 52 weeks a year.

We should strive with all our heart to serve God and not worry about Salvation since it will come as a natural consequence of our love for God and our sincere service to Him.

Through two degrees miguel studied very had to learn the subject matter of every course he registered for - not to get good grades but to learn; logically, good grades "just happened" as the logical consequence of studying hard to learn. It is all the same.


From Initials Withheld @ USA [Published on February 4th]

Q. I am shaken up by the math you outlined in your response to JC in the Public Forum of January 27. You are getting about 40,000 visitors per month to your site (which I assume includes repeat visitors), yet this world has 6.5 billion people in it.

The logical conclusion is that only a tiny fraction are saved, and THAT THE MAJORITY ARE NOT.

There is a Bible verse the exact reference of which I am not sure, but it ponders, "What if God created some people only to be destroyed?" This is not in keeping with the God of the New Testament, but sounds very much like the no nonsense God of the Old Testament where thousands were slaughtered time and time again. It never sounded like those people were saved, but I am not sure they were sent to Hell, either. I am aware both Gods are One and The Same.

I know you answered the question of JC and you did it well, but I am looking for "wiggle room" for these people.

Your analysis points to the fact that a tiny portion are in the Book of Life, and that the rest are in Hell to suffer eternally. Is there any chance that the wicked simply die and do not suffer eternal fire?

What I am getting at is that the reward for doing God's Will is to be with God for Eternity. It has never made me feel happy to see my enemies suffer. Seeing their pain has never made me feel better, even when they probably deserved what they got.

From your analysis, all souls have Eternal Life, it is just that some spend it with God and others never see God but see Hell forever.

What is missing in my analysis?

Am I being too kind?

Initials Withheld


A. Perhaps you have read far more into that particular response than it contained.

First of all, although someone may now know with great accuracy the schedule for the Apocalyptic Events for the End of These Times (see the response to LP on January 29th below) no one should even consider estimating the number of names in the Book of Life - that would certainly be amongst the last things that miguel de Portugal would try to project. All we can refer to is what we find in the Holy Scriptures, for example in Revelations 9 we read:

18 And by these three plagues was slain the third part of men, by the fire and by the smoke and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

Those deaths are the result the three plagues alone; there are other death dealing threats in the Book of Revelations.

The number of Domain traffic we quoted are single individuals - that is - if one individual visits the Domain twenty times a month, it would be counted as only one. Many visitors circulate the pages (this will only count as one document); others print the pages and pass them around (this will also only count as one document). Therefore, we have no idea how many individuals read the documents in The M+G+R Foundation Domain.

We do know that we have visitors from over 103 different countries. In addition, many years ago we received a permission request to translate a lengthy document into Tamil and publish it in printed form. How many have been translated, printed and circulated without requesting us for permission, only God knows and, really, that is His business for so are we.

There are billions who do not know Jesus as the result of the failed Evangelization effort led by the Successors of Peter plus those who have rejected God as the result of the abuses of the Administrators of organized religion. Those are not automatically hell bound. They will suffer a great deal and the "invoice" for said sufferings will be presented to those who could have assisted them in some way in seeing the Light, yet, did not.

48 But he that knew not, and did things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. And unto whomsoever much is given, of him much shall be required: and to whom they have committed much, of him they will demand the more. [Luke 12]

God has made special arrangements for the salvation of those "that knew not" - even though they will have to acknowledge Jesus as their Savior. We know the highlights of said arrangements - thus we are quite sure of it.

The above information should be sufficient to automatically address the remainder questions and concerns.

We thank the writer for the opportunity to address these Universal concerns.


From LP @ USA [Published on January 29th]

Q. It is a logical impossibility that ANYONE could predict the date of the Return of Christ. What are you thoughts on this matter?

LP

A. Going back to the Word of God as the only fountain of recorded revealed Truth we find:

In Matthew 24 we read:

34 Amen I say to you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done. 35 Heaven and earth shall pass, but my words shall not pass. 36 But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone. 37 And as in the days of Noe, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, even till that day in which Noe entered into the ark, 39 And they knew not till the flood came, and took them all away; so also shall the coming of the Son of man be.

In Mark 13 we read:

32 But of that day or hour no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father. 33 Take ye heed, watch and pray. For ye know not when the time is.

First of all we must realize that, when Jesus Christ returns, it will be simultaneously for everyone in the planet. In which case - It will occur at 24 different hours spanning two different dates. Thus, there is not one fixed day and time. Nonetheless, those who need to know "close enough" will know just as Noah did - he knew exactly when he and his family needed to move into the ark.

As to "... neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son..", this could raise - and has in the past - a question about the Divinity of Jesus. As we have pointed out in our documents Biblical Literalism - Part I and Biblical Literalism - Part II, we must spiritually understand what we read. When Jesus spoke thus He was in the flesh - and just like any man [except in sin] in Time, thus He would not know; thus, this lack of knowledge had nothing to do with His Divine Status.

But what about "... neither the angels in heaven..." someone may ask? The way we see this is that the angels - when working with man in the Time frame like, for example, Raphael [in the Book of Tobias] or one's Guardian Angel - may not know it for the same reason that Jesus did not nor we do.

What is really important is that we, like Noah, be spiritually sensitive to the times and prepare for it; i.e. building our Arc and inviting to it those around us by helping them see the signs and, above all, by the example we give with our lives.

Sometimes "Man thinks too much, and yet, not enough...."

Thank you for the opportunity to address this issue.



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