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Letters/Questions - Addressed on January - 2006
Also, I believe that Conchita mentioned something to the effect that some of us would die (die from the stress of seeing what our sins have done). Are all of us in danger of dying from this stress , since we are all sinners and have done (or failed to do all we should have done) the right things time and time again?
Yes, we all are influenced by the "wicked ways of the world" and will pay the consequences if we "dance to the world's music". This is why, those of us who become more and more aware of what is right and what is wrong, MUST pray, as we have explained, for those who cannot see it. The more aware we become of the Truth, the more God will expect from us - most specially in the coming to the prayerful assistance to those who are lost and still must find their way back to the Father because their name IS in the Book of Life.
Yes indeed, many will die when they see the state of their souls. We refer you to m de P's experience; that experience took place a few years after his conversion and in a State of Grace. In his case, the shock was logically manifested as sorrow because by then he loved the Lord deeply and he was experiencing how his past sins, already forgiven and paid for, had made Jesus suffer. No one enjoys witnessing the suffering of the object of one's profound love.
A truly sorrowful and contrite heart combined with true faith in God's Mercy will greatly help at that time.
Note added on August 19, 2010
The world is heading, without further ado, directly into the Chastisement (2), which was announced in Garabandal and Akita (3), and which we have independently confirmed several times since 1992.
We do not intend to explain, justify, or "do theology" regarding this notification any further at this time (4). We do, however, encourage each and every one of you to act upon it as it were the proverbial "Gospel Truth" - you have nothing to lose by heeding this advise, but much to lose if it is ignored.
This announcement should in no way - directly or indirectly - cast a doubt on the events of Garabandal which, without a doubt, were real and from Heaven. However, all must remember the Sovereignty of God; a sovereignty which He freely exercises as He sees how His children react to His entreaties, and how those who were entrusted with the Evangelization of His children have acted (5).
We suggest that the guidelines on "What to do?" that we published long ago (6) be taken out from the "Hope (it doesn't happen) Chest" and followed, now.
For those to whom God made a special promise associated with the Miracle, we say: Don't despair! God will keep His Word; maybe not in the manner that you were expecting, but He will.
(2) This may be part of the chastisement
(4) On September 30th, 2010, God has allowed us to explain the reasoning behind this
(5) The manipulation of revealed dates
(6) What can we do? Part 1 and Part 2
From MA @ USA [Published on January 30th]
I wish to thank you for your patience with me. Love
In came satan and "invented" the misuse of the scapular medal: Crafted in gold and dangling from a gold chain.... too many times almost submerged in an apparently bottomless cleavage. Hardly a holy situation.
Empty and elaborate rituals are worthless - look at the world today after millions of such Masses and Rosaries. If more than just a small fraction of those Masses and Rosaries had reached Heaven, this world would be a near paradise for His children. Instead, what we read in Chapter 1 of the Book of Isaiah applied.
A scapular worn with the right frame of mind (see first paragraph above) and a well intended renewal of one's consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary on a frequent basis will please God and Mary far more that to automatically fulfill a ritual.
Regarding your "disappointment".... We suggest that you offer it to God in reparation for the disappointment the Administrators of the Church He established have caused Him; to Mary for the disappointment the Administrators of the Church Her Son established have caused Her; and to both for the disappointments that you have caused them Both.
God has a plan for each one of us and as we deviate from it, we cause him grief and disappointment. Unfortunately we usually think of "my disappointment" and not the disappointments that we may cause others - most specially to those Who love us like no one else would ever be capable of.
The nearly one thousand documents which helped you and many others so much will remain on line and are easily accessible. We pray that you continue to review them since much more can be learned the second or third time around.
We must respect and believe that our Lord God knows all and is all powerful. In His omnipotence He knows when a fetus will be aborted. Could not He, in His infinite Mercy, not allow a soul to enter that fetus?
What if all the energy, prayers, and supplication now being expended on the abortion issue, were focused on World Peace, or the souls in Purgatory, or to stop the death penalty in America for those we know already have a soul, or to stop the terrible genocide of the World?
Who has tricked us into diverting our prayers in this matter? I cannot imagine the power of all those prayers pounding at Heaven's Door for these undeniable, visible horrors.
Thank you and may you continue in God's grace.
To end all man-made horrors we must go to the root cause of the problem. Didn't Jesus teach us, without a doubt, to pray for our enemies and persecutors? When we pray for their conversion - those who are to be converted, will, and their behavioral pattern will change to be more Christ like. Regarding those who are not to be converted (and only God knows "Who Is Who")... when we pray for them they will, in essence, be neutralized from harming you and anyone else God determines.
How many people prayed for Hitler when his true colors began to show? Stalin when assumed the reins of the Soviet Union? Your local pedophile priest and his collaborating Bishop? The terrorists who indiscriminantly kill whomever they wish? We will venture to guess that just a handful of individuals in the entire Christian Universe did.
This has become a "gimme" world - the only Trinity that most Christians believe in is "I, Me and Myself" just to, when things just "don't go their way" say: "Is there a God?" "How can God allow this?"
To that we answer: Yes, there Is a God and He would not allow this if we did our part and quit hosting "pity parties" and pointing the finger at someone else. We are responsible for the sewer we live in in spite of the enormous power placed in our hands by God through Jesus Christ. To wit:
Please explain this to me. Did I misunderstand what you wrote?
God Bless You,
Nonetheless, we ask you: How could we possibly even imply that praying in latin is a blasphemy? Even if we did not have personal favorite latin prayers such as Salve Regina and Tantum Ergo, how could we "rule" that the poor and disoriented Faithful are committing a blasphemy for praying in latin as they have been taught? That would place us in the same level as the Roman Church Administration. God forbid!
The blasphemy that we referred to was the selling out of the Holy Catholic Faith to the highest bidder - Emperor Constantine, followed by the monumental lie that Constantine had willed the Roman Empire to the Church Administration.
The only problem that we may have with Latin is personal and it is because the revolting flashbacks it evokes from time to time.
Laudetur Jesus Christus et Ave Maria Semper Virgo!
Jesus' Church will Always be Jesus' Church - the gates of Hell will not prevail against it. It has stood for two thousand years, and will continue to stand because it is His Mystical Body, of which He is the Head and the Holy Spirit the Soul. There have always been attacks against it from outside and from inside - but It Continues to Stand, and will continue to stand... your website sounds as though you are saying it no longer stands.
Who is right: you or Jesus? Please don't let Satan turn you away through spiritual pride and lack of humility and obedience to the Magisterium, who has always been guided by the Holy Spirit. This is God's Church, not man-made. Please don't attack It.
In Cordibus Jesu et Mariae,
First of all, we must clearly define what the "Church" really is. The Church is composed by the laity and clergy of all who accept Jesus Christ as the Savior of mankind. Most specifically:
This is the opposite of the claim, maintained for centuries by Roman Administrators of the Catholic Faith, that adherence to the Roman Catholic Church was a prerequisite for salvation.
Within that group - as in any organization - there is the Roman Catholic Administration, as well as others, like in the Orthodox Catholic Church, etc. This Roman Administration is composed by the College of Cardinals and the lesser Hierarchy with the Bishop of Rome, the Pope, at its head. Said Administration is in charge of the mechanical workings of the organization which was supposed to Evangelize the world and uphold the basic tenets of the Catholic Faith.
Even though they failed in the Evangelization effort - and we have the state of the world today to prove it - God, Who even satan must serve, saw that the Pristine Catholic Faith reach These Times to assist His true Children - not those who claim to be, but those who strive to do His Will.
As you will see, we fully agree with you in the fact that the Gate of Hell not prevail against the Church, however, as we have clearly pointed out, some conditions do apply.
As you will also see, if you are serious in pursuing this matter further, not only we uphold the Catholic Faith, but we take it to limits the above mentioned Administrators may not dare to because is not "politically correct" - the principle which has ruled Rome since Emperor Constantine (not the Pope) Presided the so often quoted Council of Nicea.
However, we will not tolerate in silence, under any circumstances, as our Lord Jesus Christ taught us and the Apostles lived, abuses that openly counter the Will of God as expressed by the Holy scriptures - Old and New Testaments - and the requests of our Heavenly Mother.
Rome is always playing the "Excommunication" or "Not in communion with" card as a threat to Catholics. There is another side to that coin. No child of God and true follower of Jesus Christ wants to be in communion with members of an Administration who, defying God and the specific requests of our Heavenly Mother, became the accessories of the greatest genocide that humanity has ever experienced.
To clarify that point for those who do not wish to see the obvious, we shall give you a concrete example: We feel very much in communion with H.H. John XXIII and H.H. Paul VI who tried, after learning the true secret of Fatima, to steer the whole Mystical Body of Christ to a position that would minimize what is to come upon it as such secret is fulfilled; conversely, we do not feel in communion with John Paul II, a man whose assassination attempt had to be allowed by God to bring Fatima to his attention and who voluntarily or not (only God knows and will judge accordingly) turned the keys of the Church (certainly not of Heaven!) to the Prelature of the Holy Cross and Opus Dei and the other sects who are, in essence, taking the Administration of the Church back to the witch hunt days of the Inquisition. Something that was directly opposed to the teachings of Jesus Christ. To wit:
Once again, thank you for the golden opportunity to clarify these very important points.
May God continue to bless the work you do.
North Korea gathers kit for nuclear bombs
NORTH KOREA is working to restart a reactor that would produce enough plutonium to make 10 atomic bombs a year, a leading American nuclear scientist has revealed.
Siegfried Hecker, former director of the US government’s top secret Los Alamos laboratory, also said the North Koreans reprocessed 8,000 fuel rods to make up to 14kg (30lb) of plutonium last summer, despite taking part in six-party talks hosted by China to end their weapons programme.
“They have the plutonium,” he said. “We have to assume the North Koreans can and have made a few nuclear devices.”
US planning strike against Iran
The United States government reportedly began coordinating with NATO its plans for a possible military attack against Iran.
The German newspaper Der Tagesspiegel collected various reports from the German media indicating that the North Atlantic Treaty Organization are examining the prospects of such a strike.
According to the report, CIA Director Porter Goss, in his last visit to Turkey on December 12,
requested Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan to provide military bases to the United States in
2006 from where they would be able to launch an assault.
Now, for our specific answer using the above as a backdrop.
Why concern ourselves with the date of the Miracle?
Instead of trying to second guess the date of the Miracle, we should be very, very concerned about the condition of our souls before the chastisement. miguel de Portugal had a personal preview and as you may read - it was not easy at all.
Beware! As we have also said: There are just too many "seers" and only those who have Eyes to See will be able to discern which are the ones that God has chosen to alert His children, and which He maintains active, for These Times. We strongly suggest that, what we have published in our Board in the last month, be carefully meditated upon. We are "not on commission" - we just want to make sure that we are in a solid position to say: "We told you so!" when it is too late to do anything else.
Is that a truthful translation? I don't think so. I've always been for the right to self-defence and defence of one's nation, or of others who are unjustly aggressed, and I cannot picture God realistically being against this; as long as the defence applied does not exceed the status of defence. Once it becomes more, then it clearly no longer is only defence; it is then aggression for aggression, which is certainly against God's Will and Way. God is against 'eye for an eye', but while it distinctly differs from defence.
The apparently and realistically much more truthful translation of the above Commandment is: "Thou shalt not murder".
That's according to Jewish translations, and the explanation is that (when the Ten Commandments were given to Moses) Jews believed in the
right to defence, and that killing strictly in defence is not murder; a view I cannot logically disagree with. Both killing and murder involve but are distinctly different forms of killing; the contrasting underlying reasons being very important to keep in mind.
On that basis we have David vs Goliath, David having not murdered but killed Goliath; strictly to defend the community against Goliath's predatory aggressions.
Jesus never disagreed with either David's act or "thou shalt not murder". Jesus said he did not come to replace the Old Law but to fulfill the prophecies, along with inferring that he also came to [clarify] how we're to understand and live by the Old Law(s). And Jesus explicitly supported the Ten Cs when the Jewish man who was wealthy, while saying he had always obeyed the Ten Cs, asked Jesus what more he could do; and Jesus said to share the wealth with those in need. Jesus did not tell the man to also stop adhering to the Ten Cs.
When I come to such dilemmas, I just leave it to God to some day clarify for us, if He wishes to ever do so. As for the rest of Christian faith,
it's not really affected; Jesus' teachings nevertheless hold.
To cut through all the semantics and get to the core issue let us see what Jesus said about how to handle our enemies:
....and, just in case someone missed that point He proceeded thus....
Now, you may chose not to believe that, and such is your prerogative and we respect it, but we cannot put words in Jesus' mouth justifying killing in self defense.
To better illustrate this point, let us now imagine hearing a Christian, soldier OR Commander in Chief, who, voluntarily or involuntarily, is engaged in any kind of war, praying the Our Father (2) with God's feedback as each invocation is made.
"Hallowed be thy name" How can My Name be more impiously unhallowed, than by mutual bloody murder among you, My children?
"Thy kingdom come" Do you pray for the coming of My Kingdom, while you are endeavoring to establish an earthly despotism, by spilling the blood of My children?
"Thy Will be done on earth as it is in Heaven" My will in Heaven is for peace, but you are now meditating war.
Dare you to say to your Father in Heaven "Give us this day our daily bread" When you are going, the next minute perhaps, to burn up your brother's corn-fields; and had rather lose the benefit of them yourself, than suffer him to enjoy them unmolested?
With what face can you say, "Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive them that trespass against us," when, so far from forgiving your own brother, you are going, with all the haste you can, to murder him in cold blood, for an alleged trespass that, after all, is but imaginary.
"Let us not fall prey to temptation", Do you presume to deprecate the danger of temptation, who, not without great danger to yourself, are doing all you can to force your brother into danger?
"...and deliver us from evil." Do you deserve to be delivered from evil, that is, from the evil being, to whose impulse you freely and joyfully submit yourself, and by whose spirit you are now guided, in contriving the greatest possible evil to your brother?
"Amen!" Yes, indeed. "Amen" means "so be it", and so it shall for you - just as you have requested.
In conclusion - If you feel that Jesus teachings still hold, then, should we not strive, hard as we can to live them, without putting words in His mouth?
He Is indeed trying to clarify all of this for you and all and the key to understanding what He really meant through the Holy Scriptures may be found in our twin documents Biblical Literalism Part I and Part II
We thank you for the opportunity.
(1) Public Forum - November 2005
(2) Our Father
Could you also indicate whether the posting entitled "An Announcement" which concerned information in your possession which indicated the possibility that the Miracle of Garabandal might take place on April 16th 2006, which date you were not in a position to confirm or deny at the time, has been corroborated or not.
Also in that regard has the person who subsequently wrote to you and suggested that your proposed date was incorrect, and that he/she knew of another date that fulfilled all the conditions, but was waiting on the guidance of the Holy Spirit before confirming their date, been in touch again to reveal their information, and if so can you reveal it on your website.
Secondly - m de P does not make the decision of what and/or how the information is published. We realize that humans are used to have other humans, who may have been called by God to serve Him, take the center stage - become "a star", so to speak. The moment a human who has been called to serve God assumes the "center stage"/"star" position, his/her service ends and, henceforth, those who "followed" him/her will be deceived.
m de P has been told before "Act your part!" - and he is. The problem was that those who have said that wanted m de p to take the center stage - become "a star" so some of the "light" would be reflected on those close enough to him to urge him to behave in that way.
There is only One Star, One Light, One Way, One Master, One Lord - Jesus Christ ! - and the greatest hope any human should have is to serve Him while deferring all the Glory to Him. After all: "Who is like unto God?" (*)
Regarding specific dates for "sign-posts along the way" events: Following is a prayer offered by m de P at least twice a day:
We could give examples of how God has used m de P to greatly minimize the suffering ("....that waits humanity as prophecy is fulfilled and Divine Justice dispensed") resulting from events - very well known worldwide for their destructive magnitude - yet he did not know he "was doing it" until much later when God lifted a corner of the veil to show him how he was used. m de P wishes to assure you - one and all - that if he had known, even if he had tried not to interfere, his human reactions would have interfered. Maybe one day some of these stories will be told.
(*) The name "Michael", "Miguel", "Micaiah" precisely mean: "Who is like unto God?"
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