About Non Consecrated Hosts
Non Consecrated Hosts being given to the innocent faithful
What we have published
Back in 1992 God revealed to miguel de Portugal, and then confirmed it
in a multitude of occasions in three countries, that unconsecrated
hosts were being distributed as consecrated ones.
The purpose of this document is to publish in one single file the
correspondence that we have received, and responded to, in reference to
wherein we denounce - with great details - the use of non consecrated
hosts in many Roman Catholic Churches.
In Chronological Order
From JM @ USA - Published on June
29th, 2005 [Feast of Sts. Peter and Paul]
I went to Mass Saturday evening for the Vigil for Sunday. I was
watching carefully to be sure that all the vessels on the altar
containing the bread and wine to be offered were beneath the priest's
hands as he performed the Transubstantiation.
I believe I saw that, after Father transubstantiated the bread and wine
in the vessels before him, Deacon P went into the Tabernacle, removed
two gold bowls and placed them among the others on the altar. Their
contents were then part of what was offered to those receiving The Holy
My question is this:
Does the bread remain in the "Form" (of Our Lord) even though it may be
unused for a particular Mass and brought out at a later time or need it
be transubstantiated for each Mass?
A. Yes. The
Eucharistic Presence of Our Lord continues to Be. However, there seems
to be a problem with that practice.
First of all - In accordance to the Vatican Rules, most of the
consecrated hosts given in a particular Mass should have been
consecrated in that same Mass, except when conditions simply prevent
it, such as: Mass in St. Peter's Square or the esplanade before the
Basilica of Fátima and the like. Even though thousands of hosts are
consecrated then, the officiating minister must rely on previously
consecrated hosts for the communion of hundreds of thousands of
Nevertheless, what concerns us the most is that we are witnessing the
practice that you have reported in far too many Masses where there is no need to do so
unless, of course, "the need" is to feed the Faithful unconsecrated
hosts. This, of course, would be in keeping with the times that we are
living through. What better way for satan to mount a full and final
assault on those who try to remain strengthened by and through the
Bread of Heaven than by spiritual starving them?
Most homilies have become completely
worthless; therefore, if to that absence one adds the
withholding of the True Bread of Heaven... then, what is that you have
left? Nothing! - except the ever-present collection plate.
Our advice from here - and regardless who may get upset, the Roman
Curia included - is: (1) Attend Mass where you
can be sure that the consecration is being done properly; and
That most hosts used in communion were consecrated right at that Mass
and before you own eyes.
Frankly - with some notable exceptions - we have very little trust in
the integrity of those who
today claim to be Shepherds for God's people.
From JM @ USA - Published on
March 16th, 2008 [Palm Sunday]
In reference to what appears to be the preference of offering communion
at Mass mostly from hosts which are in reserve in the Tabernacle...
I was drawn to a document called "Liturgical Norms Of the Diocese of
Charlotte" and as I read the document I was surprised to learn the
Norms (bold script is original, not my highlights)
12. Planning for the Mass should include providing for a sufficient
number of hosts to be consecrated so that all can receive hosts
consecrated during that Mass, underlining the connection between
consecration and communion. Generally,
reserved hosts should not be brought from the tabernacle unless needed
at a particular Mass. (1)
This addresses the issue but works around the central question of the
consecrated status of the 'reserved hosts'...
If hosts are to be consecrated during the Sacrifice of the Mass wherein
they are to be consumed, why so many "reserved hosts'? (2)
Have they been consecrated at some previous Mass? Shouldn't by now any
Parish could make informed and practical estimates on how many would be
needed at a particular Mass and thus avoid the "unless needed" and
confusing issue of bringing out and offering unconsecrated hosts?
example from the Diocese of Venice
(2) These hosts are reserved
for the sick and for those who could not be present at the Mass.
From KH @ USA - Published on
March 22nd, 2008 [Holy Saturday]
Good Morning, dear Family, Thank you for your updates. Blessings and
good wishes to you during Holy Week.
What JM has experienced [See posting of March 16th above] in his church
seems to be quite common for other churches in that diocese, in spite
of what's stated in the diocesan norms. I visit a half dozen or so
Charlotte churches on a regular basis, and have seen Communion
distributed exclusively from
the reserved hosts, and have also observed how these many hosts
have been questionably (in my mind) consecrated (1)
during the Sunday Mass, because of so many vessels on the altar and
these so distanced from the priest's extended hands during the
Even during daily Mass, when the consecration appears to be done
properly, the reserved hosts are often still withdrawn and distributed
by the Eucharistic minister, which leaves half of those present who may
not be receiving the true Body and Blood.
I was just feeling sad about this after the Mass attended for Palm
Sunday when I saw the above mentioned posting. I was planning to begin
a Novena today to the Blessed Mother in advance of the Annunciation, so
I think that I will pray that the Bishop will somehow enforce the norms
that are published for this diocese regarding the Holy Eucharist.
I'm running out of options as to where to attend Mass in this area, but
I am sure our situation is not exclusive... and I will follow your
recommendations for this week and future, so as to not offend God any
further and to receive the benefits and graces that Jesus wished us to
have when He left us His Gifts.
(1) About Transubstantiation
From CB (1) @ USA - Published on January 9th, 2010
Epiphany on the Feast of the Epiphany ...should you want a title
to my letter.
As I had some time to spare during my recent visit to New York City, I
decided to visit St. Patrick's Cathedral - where I had been baptized
and where I was a parishioner. Approaching the Cathedral I passed a
very famous world class jeweler, Cartier.
In addition to holiday season decor in their windows, they had a sound
system piping Christmas Carols to the street.
When I passed it played - not Christmas carols - but rather the theme
to the film The Exorcist
('Tubular Bells'). No joke. I was rather taken aback and stopped to
listen - it was for real.
We discussed the Cathedral security. It is worse than I described
before: some 12-15 security men were all around the inside of the
building, eying me suspiciously. Yet a mere handful of tourists were
inside (30 in a building seating 3000). I felt I was being watched...
and I was. By them and by more security cameras than I could count. All
over the place. I was filmed more in those 30 minutes then in all my
This was mid-morning on a sunny day, yet the building was so quiet you
could hear a pin drop. In contrast to previous years when it would
bustle with tourists whom you would have to push past to get to a pew.
The overall impression of the interior was dark, somber, tomb-like.
Reminding me more of a museum. The interior is white and brightly lit
by the stained glass alone. It appeared and "felt".... dark. The
phrase/concept "Hollywood stage set' flashed into my mind. All was its
usual very clean and well maintained state, yet something was now
different. Even from a few years ago.
Rather then the former experience of it being a house of prayer weighed
down by lovely works of art and excessive candle/statue veneration...
now it had been transformed (spiritually, not by physical changes) into
a a house of money, framed as a 'religious stage set'. The comic idea
of pushing it over as it was made of cardboard came to mind. A stage
set for the liturgy as a 'performance art' for the consumption for the
disoriented sheep. Run by the 'wolves' you have alluded to... all
All that was missing in this regard were the mechanically operated
idols of ancient pagan temples which would move, belch forth smoke,
'speak', etc... to keep the 'believers' believing, and enriching the
The Blessed Sacrament was in the Lady's Chapel, as it has been for many
years now. Only two other souls were there with me, praying. Yet I was
being observed by at least 2 security guards and 3 cameras (or
more....) in this small chapel. It had been recently and elegantly
restored. A very lovely 'stage set' was what came to mind.
While I cannot put into words what I felt, the impression of the
Tabernacle as "casa vacia"
(empty house) was perceived. A lovely, but
empty, work of art, completing the 'stage set' of spiritual deception
(as you have alluded to in reference the now organized and universal
deception of passing out mostly unconsecrated hosts as "real").
Being aware of rather oppressive 'eyes' (like unseen yet very real red,
glowing eyes of salivating wolves observing prey while hidden in a
forest) observing me, I made a Spiritual Communion.
Making my way out, I made a point of observing all of the many side
altars and chapels (while being eyed and possibly followed). Most had
been well and expensively restored, via the gifts of OD, Knights of
Malta, et al, servitors of Mammon, as the donor plaques noted. Two of
them had been rebuilt as new shrines for the veneration of statues,
using pieces of altars ripped out of two of the churches demolished by
Cardinal Egan. They were a hodgepodge of mismatched architectural
salvage pieces assembled by someone with no depth perception. Showy
external 'piety' intended to fool fools, concocted by someone reading
the "Cliff Notes" version of "Traditionalism for Dummies".
Shallow beyond belief.
One, in the former Baptistery, was a shrine to St. Jude - the patron of
lost causes. No comment... The other was a shrine to Polish saints, in
the former side altar of St. Casimir. Now including St. Faustina and
many 'others' then I could count, including their Relics. It was
visual, artistic and spiritual confusion - with the seeming true point of focus being the
candle donation box. Ironically these, along with the Gift Shop are
what you first see, on opposite side aisles, as you enter. All that was
missing was a slot machine.....
At the back, where there formerly had been statues of Sts. Peter and
Paul, there were now portraits of Benedict/Ratzinger and Archbishop
Timothy Dolan. Enshrined as a Wal-Mart would have a portrait of its
founder, Sam Walton. Quite befitting a temple of Mammon, masquerading
as a house of God.
I left, passing Cartier's again..... and their sound system played the "Exorcist" theme again.
(1) We are well
acquainted with Mr. CB and we have never had any reason to doubt the
details and inside information he provides. His profession, organist
and organ restorer, caused him to work inside many Cathedral and
parishes in the East coast and at very close range of Cardinals,
Bishops and local priests.
and again from CB....
From CB @ US - Published on
October 25th, 2010
Let's make sure that we know who we are
If I am your friend, and well known to you personally, you might ask me
for my help in some matter, or to "put in a good word" for you.
That is the basis of intercessory prayer with the saints. Key to this
is the concept that we are not "praying to..." a saint, but rather
requesting that they pray for us. Mary always made this clear.
Many Catholics mistake the saint as the object of prayer,
instead of a helper and friend.
Asking the intercession of any saint is certainly proper, just as is
asking for the intercessory prayers of the souls in Purgatory (as well
as praying for them!).
Now, the thorny question is: What is
the result of 'asking the intercession of' (or praying to) a soul which
is neither in Heaven nor Purgatory?
The Devil 'hath power to assume a pleasing form'; and to grant favors
or even 'miracles' as if they were of God. All of this is to deceive
the unwary. (1)
But how would any Catholic fall into this trap?
First, let us look at the recent changes in the
office (of the Devil's Advocate) was established in 1587 during the
reign of Pope Sixtus V and abolished by Pope John Paul II in 1983. This
reform changed the canonization process considerably, helping John Paul
II to usher in an unprecedented number of elevations: nearly 500
individuals were canonized and over 1,300 were beatified during his
tenure as Pope as compared to only 98 canonizations by all his
20th-century predecessors, which has led many persons to question the
validity of the process and whether all of those canonized today are
deserving of the recognition....." (2)
The answer is: Many Catholics simply do not know any better, as they
are blindly accepting
every new 'Beati' or 'Saint' as 100% unquestionably legitimate. This
goes hand in hand with the conditioned response to 'blanket
Infallibility' (3) upon which such Beatification
and Canonizations rest... ...like the proverbial 'house built on sand'.
We mortals have no right to judge the eternal destiny of a soul. Yet at
the same time, we are being asked to turn off our intuitive faculties
as well as our spiritual discernment (which is guided by the Holy
Spirit of God).
Some questions are in order:
1) what if one is (innocently) asking
the intercession of someone presented as a 'saint', who is neither in
Heaven nor Purgatory? (i.e. in Hell)
2) what if one is (innocently) venerating the image/statue or relics of
the same alleged saint?
3) what if a church builds a shrine or side chapel honoring the same
4) what if priests and bishops say the votive mass or feast day mass of
the same alleged saint?
Items #3 and 4 above have one meaning if the cleric who does such is
ignorant of the reality, while they have quite another meaning if done
knowingly (even if only by a select few...), nonetheless, both have the
same net effect - the glorification of evil.
This could be equated with the global scam of distributing
un-consecrated hosts for 'Holy Communion'. It could also be done by
both the knowing and the ignorant priest - nonetheless, both have the
same net effect: The next-to-the-ultimate deception to the Faithful who
unknowingly is receiving a false-host and not receiving the true-host -
the Living Christ.
Perhaps some of this is what Mary referred to in La Salette:
the year 1864, Lucifer together with a large number of demons will be
unloosed from hell; they will put an end to faith little by little,
even in those dedicated to God. They will blind them in such a way,
that, unless they are blessed with a special grace, these people will
take on the spirit of these angels of hell; several religious
institutions will lose all faith and will lose many souls.
"Evil books will be abundant on earth
and the spirits of darkness will spread everywhere a universal
slackening in all that concerns the service of God. They will have
great power over nature: there
will be churches built to serve these spirits. People will be
transported from one place to another by these evil spirits, even
priests, for they will not have been guided by the good spirit of the
Gospel, which is a spirit of humility, charity and zeal for the glory
of God. On occasions, the dead and the righteous will be brought
back to life. (4)
A. Thank you
for sharing your views and logic with us. You have, through the Grace
of God, "given flesh" to what our Heavenly Mother warned us about in La
Our Lady of La Salette "keeps on talking" and that is why She has so
many enemies in the sects and other fanatical elements within the
Published on January 18th, 2012
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